Originally by: CCP Chronotis

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Originally by: Larkonis Trassler

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Revisions to drop loot tables and ore distribution are great but I'm somewhat concerned about the changes to T2 insurance. What with the finite supply of moongold if you make T2 ships cheaper to lose you will see more people flying them, driving up prices which then adjust insurance payouts etc thus potentially leading to spiralling costs all over the place.

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The valuations are clamped to always payout a fraction of the market value of the materials used to manufacture the ships in the case of Tech 2. Yes if the value of those materials increases so does the cost of building the ship and it's market price and the relative insurance payout. The same is true of all ships hence why its called dynamic insurance :).

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Originally by: CCP Chronotis

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it is a doomsday scenario and wont happen tbh but yes we were aware of what increased payout entails with ship use.

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Originally by: LHA Tarawa

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Originally by: Kerfira

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The basic T1 loot from mission running should not be replaced by anything. Mission running is way too profitable as it is, and the loot is a relative minor part of the total rewards.

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They said they are replacing them with scrap metal and more tags. Scrap metal pretty much is nothing as it takes a freighter load full to refine into much of anything. Most salvagers just jettison the scrap metal to make more space in the hold and I assume mission looters are just going to leave the scrap in the wreck to despawn.

Tags have value only in thier rarity. In my neck of the woods, far more people rat in Hemitar than Metro, so the electrim and paladium angel tags trade at 60K while the brass and silver from Metro trade at 2 million. This despite the electrum and palladium being for higher level data center agents so give larger faction bumps.

If there is a significant increase in tag drops... like 1 or 2 more per mission, you double the current supply. I have to assume that will CRUSH prices. So, instead of 100 meta 0 drops let's say I get 1 tag. I think that would cause the price of that tag to fall pretty drastically. If it is 1 tag per 10 removed meta 0, then forget about it. People will be leaving the tags behind like they now leave scrap and cap booster charges.

In short, they pretty much are replacing the meta 0 with nothing.

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Originally by: Camios

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Originally by: dischordia

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I think a lot of people fail to see what EvE and other MMO's are ... They are games you play with OTHER PEOPLE not solo, therefore there _SHOULD_ always be people out there to work with. Be it mining ops, Pvp, Mission running, industry, exploration etc etc the list goes on.

So if you have to work as a team to get your stuff from the source to the end, well then do it, you have a team who work in highsec to get the easy stuff and then a team in low/null sec getting other things you need and you all work for the greater good. But alas people just want to sit and afk most of the time.

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You don't understand. Of course people in 0.0 now do their teamwork and live there, make a lot of money with high end minerals, with highend moons, with complex and ratting and so on, so they are happy and rich (thanks dominion).
But there is not point in producing stuff in 0.0, and I think it should be better to have more industry in 0.0, that is make it profitable, that is increase somewhat the availability of lowend minerals without forcing people to mine it, because it is stupid to mine veldspar when you can mine arkonor.

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